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Advanced Skills of Narrative Practice
6 Day Intensive
(30 CEC's)

Advanced Skills of Narrative Practice
Six Day Intensive
(over three weekends)

30 CE credits granted by the CCPA

"Being a narrative therapist for over 15 years, I wondered what was left to learn? Your Advanced Practice course opened SO many new possibilities for new practice. Thanks to ALL of you and your beautiful work and showing me a way into the future!” - Advanced Participant, May 2021, LA, California

VSNT faculty are dramatically reshaping the ideas and practices of Narrative Therapy. Join us for a powerful 3 weekend intensive that promises to improve your application and knowledge of narrative therapy.

Weekend One: December 10-11, 2022

Skills of Practice - Lost Art of Narrative Family Therapy:

Working with Children,Youth and Families - with David Nylund PhD

Narrative Therapy, Eating Disorders and Families - with Christine Dennstedt PhD, Stephen Madigan PhD, + Insider Anti-anorexia consultant Live interview.



Weekend Two: January 28-29, 2023

Relationships are Relational:Narrative Therapy informed Relational Interviewing with Conflicted Couple Relationships

Helene Grau Kristensen MA, Stephen Madigan PhD, Todd May PhD

80% Sold

Weekend Three: February 4-5, 2023

Skills of Practice - Narrative Therapy, Neurobiology, Trauma, and the Body.

Rosa Arteaga MA & Jeff Zimmerman PhD

85% Sold

Zoom Time: 8:15am - 2:15pm PST

Location: Classes are taught live through Zoom video conferencing

Single Weekend Pricing:

Professional: $210. CAD (+ tax)

Students/ members: $160. CAD (+ tax)

VSNT faculty welcomes participants at all levels of practice experience and theoretical understanding to join us in these new training courses.

Weekend One: Sold Out
December 10-11, 2022
8:15am - 2:15pm Pacific Time

Skills of Practice: The Lost Art of Narrative Family Therapy: Working with Children, Youth and Families + Narrative Therapy with Eating Disorders

With Christine Dennstedt PhD, Stephen Madigan PhD,
David Nylund PhD  + Anti-anorexia Insider Consultant

Day One: Where is the family in family therapy these days???

Participants learn the traditions of family therapy, and both historical and new school narrative practices in working with youth and families. Through unaltered transcripts and demonstrations videos, Rock outlines his work with families and youth and introduces a new 5-step model narrative family therapy with trans youth and families. 

Day Two: Stephen situates the cultural complexities involved in anorexia and bulimia having the 2nd highest death rates next to the  fentanyl epidemic in the USA. Stephen then highlights the creativity Christine involves inside an Anti-anorexia/bulimia narrative therapy practice informed by a non-individualist, cultural and contextual therapeutic practice. They do this through a live supervision of the ecology of ideas she receives disordered eating client stories into and then he asks questions about each question she asks in the demonstrated  unaltered session transcript. Whew!

The workshop is then joined by a famous Vancouver Anti-anorexia League insider/member who leads a vital discussion on what every therapist needs to know about working with people and families who are in a deadly relationship with anorexia and bulimia.

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Couple in Raincoats

Weekend Two: 80% Sold
January 28-29, 2023
8:15am - 2:15pm Pacific Time

Skills of Practice: Relationships are Relational Narrative therapy informed Relational Interviewing with conflicted Couple Relationships. 

With Helene Grau MA, Stephen Madigan PhD, Todd May PhD

To the under initiated, the idea of engaging therapeutically with conflicted couple relationships can be quite overwhelming. Added to this confused complexity are the numerous questions raised regarding the expert focused individualist practices of popular couple therapy.


Day One: Simultaneously teach together and interweaving a concert between narrative therapy informed Relational Interviewing practice and the theory Todd brings forward philosophical ideas concerning: non-individualism, memory, values and valuing, the concept of care, the difference between realizing creativity and discovering stories, the idea of narratability, and the problem with Derrida and narrative ideas like muti-storying and the absent but implicit. Interweaving back and forth, Stephen takes the participants through discussions and video demonstrations of this ground-breaking narrative therapy informed Relational Interviewing (NIRI) couple therapy practice with conflicted couple relationships from Canada, Norway and the USA. Helene joins them throughout to offer questions, commentary, and analysis.

Day Two: Helene demonstrates how she is creating entirely new forms of narrative therapy practice where she has not only incorporated - but  furthering - Relational Interviewing with couple relationships and the dead. Participants engage with a slowly guided tour through her practiced transcripts supervised (asking questions about her questions live by Stephen) with couples experiencing the relational death, grief, and loss of a child and/or loved ones who are no longer breathing.

Helene, Todd, and Stephen conclude the workshop together with discussions on where they expect their Relational Interviewing ideas and practice might take them in the future.

Weekend Three: 85% Sold
February 4-5, 2023
8:15am - 2:15pm Pacific Time

Skills of Practice: Narrative Therapy and the Body.
Neurobiology, Trauma, and Interviewing the Body

With Rosa Arteaga MA & Jeff Zimmerman PhD

Day One: Narrative Therapy and Neurobiology: Strange Bedfellows or a Thicker Union? For over 15 years Jeff Z has been speaking out internationally and writing articles and a book on the necessary ways narrative therapy and neurobiology interconnect, relationally engage, and fit together. He demonstrates how current understandings about the brain and the distributed nervous system in the body might contribute to dramatically enrich and evolve our narrative therapy practice.


Jeff highlights these possibilities with special attention given to how stress and trauma show up in the body, and how the bodies adaptations to circumstances might be a fruitful focus for our work.  He asks all participants to bring both their head AND their body to this conversation!


Day Two: Rosa’s workshop transports participants beyond current trauma informed practice trends and highlights her twenty years of direct practice as acting Clinical Supervisor of an experienced, all woman, narrative therapy inspired gender violence team in Vancouver, Canada.

Rosa introduces participants to a profoundly new narrative therapy approach to working with girls and women survivors of gender and sexual violence. Participants experience a relational, political and contextual reconnection with the woman’s body and demonstrations of Rosa - directly interviewing the woman’s body.

Rosa and Jeff conclude the workshop together with discussions on where they expect their narrative practice taking them in the future.

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Rosa Arteaga, MA

Rosa developed the innovative narrative therapy/social justice/feminist inspired therapeutic practice to support girls and women of all ages and diverse backgrounds who are experiencing complex trauma and violence. Her work takes the learner inside the vast complexities of gender violence through theoretical discussions, storytelling, and unaltered transcripts. Rosa trains internationally and for the past 12 years has been known simply as "the brilliant Clinical Director and Supervisor " - who guides the multi-disciplinary team with a nonprofit anti-violence women’s organization in Vancouver, Canada. Rosa is a longtime Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy faculty member. 

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Christine Dennstedt PhD

For the first ten years post-Masters degree

Christine trained, published, and worked,  at a ground-breaking narrative therapy inspired substance use program for street and sex trade youths. By 2010 she had completed her PhD after writing a narrative therapy informed Doctoral Dissertation on the interconnection between substance misuse and disordered eating in the lives of young women. Along with her private practice in Whistler, Canada, Christine is centrally involved with new developments in the field of psychedelic medicines and mental health - and their relationship with narrative practice. Look for her teaching on narrative therapy with psychedelic medicines and mental health at VSNT - in the coming future.


Helene Grau, MA

Helene is a co-founder of Praksis: The Centre for Narrative Therapy in Denmark. She was originally supervised and trained for many years by Michael White, effects family policy on death and grieving within Denmark, presents workshops internationally, teaches narrative therapy at the University of Copenhagen, and is a senior faculty member with the Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy. Helene's individual, couple, and multiple family group therapy practice work is described as "outrageously original". She specializes in Grief, Death, Loss and Hope - and working with parents who have experienced the death of a child. Helene is a regular interview consultant and guest on

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Stephen Madigan, PhD

Stephen is an award winning narrative therapist, best selling therapy author, Training Director of the Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy, content manager of, long time supervisor to Norway’s High Couple Conflict Teams, and, he wrote the first ever doctoral dissertation on narrative therapy. His therapy work is studied in Graduate University programs across the world through various media forms such as the American Psychological Associations production of a set of six professional learning videos filming his live narrative practice, and the 1st and 2nd Edition of his book Narrative Therapy, published in 2011 & 2019 (3rd Edition out in 2023). Stephen teaches, trains, consults and supervises globally.

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Todd May, PhD

Todd is the resident teaching Philosopher and faculty member with the Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy, and a former Professor of the Humanities at Clemson University. He is the author of seventeen books of philosophy, including Michel Foucault (2006) and Gilles Deleuze (2005).  For decades he has been active in grassroots political movements and most recently in immigration rights and anti-racism campaigns. He was the philosopher advisor to the hit TV show The Good Place on NBC and the primary philosophical consultant on the book: How to Be Perfect, written by Emmy Award–winning television producer and writer Mike Schur (2022). Todd recently completed a new book on The Philosophy of Care. Todd is a regular interview consultant and guest on

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David 'Rock' Nylund, PhD

Rock began practicing narrative therapy in 1990. He is a Professor of Social Work at California State University Sacramento, Clinical Director/Supervisor of the award winning Gender Health Centre, and longtime Vancouver School for Narrative Therapy faculty member. He has written 55 articles on a wide range of narrative therapy theory and practice topics and three books on Narrative Therapy: Narrative Therapies with Children and Adolescents (1997); Treating Huckleberry Finn: A New Narrative Approach to Working with Kids Diagnosed ADD/ADHD (2000); and Therapeutic Conversations with Queer Youth: Transcending Homonormativity and Constructing Preferred Identities (2013). Rock teaches narrative therapy workshops  worldwide

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Jeff Zimmerman, PhD

Jeff Zimmerman is at the top of the list of veteran narrative therapist/teachers world wide. Jeff first began his apprenticeship with Michael White in 1988 where he became Michael’s closest friend in North America. Jeff has over 15,000 + hours of in session narrative therapy experience, and is the co-author of a tremendously astute and helpful book entitled ‘If Problems Talked’ (a wonderful primer of old school narrative therapy!). His latest book ‘Neuro-Narrative Therapy – new possibilities for emotion-filled conversations’ is considered a must read book written well ahead of its time.


"I loved all the information and getting it from such high quality professionals. It was amazing to be able to see them all in action. The live demonstrations were probably my favourite part, as well as all of the discussion."

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