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18 CEC's

Training with Integrity, Creativity, Politic and Purpose

September, 2024

SPM rocks the couple therapy world: live & uncensored

18 CE credits granted by CCPA

Coming September, 2024

Level Two Foundations is designed to dramatically enhance participant understandings regarding the purpose, direction, politic, intention, context, history, and relational meaning of every narrative therapy question they ask. The unique Live-interview learning increases and develops skills that create meaningful therapeutic questions. This is the heart and soul of the practice. Participants engage 3 full days of live counter-story interviewing, close up supervision, discussion, and focused support of the participant's questions and therapeutic letter writing. 


Faculty offer immediate live reflections and feedback regarding the participant's own work developing questions within a supportive and small group supervisory context. The experience of learning to create world class narrative  questions is humbling, fully engaged, and always goes beyond participant expectations.


Taught by legendary narrative therapy supervisors Stephen Madigan & David Nylund, ​the Foundations Level Two Applied Skills for Narrative Practice certificate course is designed for practicing narrative therapists and is 'the next step' for participants who have completed the VSNT 5-Day Foundations & Fundamentals certificate training course.

Online Teaching Faculty:

Stephen Madigan PhD (Canada) & David Rock Nylund PhD (USA)

Dates: October 18-20th, 2024

Time: 8:15 am - 3:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (Vancouver, BC)

Location: Classes will be taught live through Zoom video conferencing

Professional: $575 CAD (+ tax)

Students/ members: $450 CAD (+ tax)

Proof of student status is required upon registration

**This course is presented through LIVE interviewing sessions. Due to issues of confidentiality and participant consent, recordings of this training will not be made available.

Daily Training Schedule

Practice, Practice, Practice

"After completing your Level Two Applied Skills course I have experienced the most confident and exhilarating two weeks of therapy in my life! Rock and Stephen you are the best pair of supervisor/teachers I have ever had. With so much gratitude and love . . ."  


- Applied Skills Participant, London, UK, November 2022



Question Development Training Supervisors 

Stephen Madigan PhD, David Nylund PhD

Day 1

8:15 AM – 9:30 AM

Anatomy of Therapeutic Questions: 

1a) Understanding the myriad of categories, values, meaning makings, direction, politics, and purpose of narrative therapy questions.


1b) Developing the Ecology of The Receiving Context Participants Receive Client Stories Into.


9:45 AM-11 AM and 12 – 3 PM 

Part one: LIVE Interview Demonstration

Stephen and Rock take turns engaging in Live counter-story interviews with participants. With each narrative question asked in the interview the question is typed up on the screen for everyone in the course to view. Then, each therapy question is closely studied, explained, and interrogated in terms of the Ecology of The Receiving Context the 'Client' Story was received into~ then the questions are analyzed further by the group.

Day 2

8:15 AM – 11:00 AM

Part Two: Extending the Craft of Question Development

Working in pairs, participants begin creating and adding their own novel interview questions to the live interview process. As a further response are therapeutic letters written and performed back to the participant 'client'. The client then responds back to the letter writer.

Part Three:

Participant questions are typed up on the screen for everyone to view and - closely supervised, studied, explained, and closely interrogated by Stephen and Rock. As a further response are therapeutic letters written and performed back to the participant 'client'. The client then responds back to the letter writer.

12:00 PM – 3 PM

Part Four:

Stephen and Rock teach and engage participants in many different styles of therapeutic letter writing practices.


Part Five:

Relational therapeutic letters are written to someone important to the participants' relational life. 

Day 3

8:15 AM – 11 AM and 12 PM - 3 PM

Part Six:

David & Stephen push participants further in their understandings regarding the ecology of the receiving context they are receiving client stories into. Thorough investigations about the structures and categories of questions: reviewing the grammar, purpose, direction, intention, politic, timing, categories, and context of narrative practice based questions. Course day also takes time to celebrate recent developments/advancements in the participant group's work with clients, questions, and therapeutic letters.

QUESTIONS? It's always been challenging to find  words that accurately/poetically describe the incredible experience VSNT supervisors develop with participants in the Level Two Foundations course. Please contact VSNT if you would like a broader description. Thanks.


"I loved all the information and getting it from such high quality professionals. It was amazing to be able to see them all in action. The live demonstrations were probably my favourite part, as well as all of the discussion."

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